here's a related concern. We need more chili this year. Most people will only make the amount that goes in their crock pot. Everyone has small crock pots. Multiple crock pots = a lot of space taken up. We don't have much space for stout night. If we can get the tent situation figured out and serve the chili outside, I'm willing to keep the competition.
If we are having an informal pol, I'd choose having the quantity over the competition. 16 different beers and 10 different chilis is a little overkill.
I agree with Daniel's suggestion that we streamline the chili. Given the number and likely strength of the beers presented, we will need a lot of chili. Having 10-15 crock pots worth of chili is interesting, but not an efficient use of space vs. a couple of catering-sized serving stations.
Link needs to be a sticky; was just trolling the thread for it.
The spreadsheet looks good idea. But, I remember from Cinco that it had different shifts within each category and it may have even had different responsibilities under each general catetory (e.g., under "setup" it had "tents" or "keezer"). Since we know the date and time of the event and since we know approximately what kind of setup we need, maybe breaking it up would be more helpful for people so they know exactly what they must do and exactly the time they have to do it....
Daniel, I'm with you on the chili. This will be cleaner, more space efficient, & free us up for other duties. People are coming for the beer and to hang out with us b/c we're awesome. the chili is just an added bonus that night and a burden the next day :)
As for the space concerns, a lot will depend on how much turnout we get based off the Daily Candy deal that will be dropping in December (we worked out the fiscal details to pay for the added costs of more people attending the party). I like the tent we used for Harvest Fest & possibly renting one similar to it that would go right next to it. We could then tarp the 3 sides & pipe in heat with a jobsite heater (which i can get for free). Thoughts?
@Evan: as long as piping in the heat from a jobsite heater doesn't present any sort of CO danger, that sounds good. Otherwise I was thinking of renting a couple of those standing propane patio heaters to put in the tent. I guess they all burn propane and would all have the same CO danger. Does anyone know how concerned we should be about potentially poisoning our guests?
Ha, no problem Adam, it's your lawyerly nature to think like that. I don't think it would be a concern as the tent won't be sealed up tightly and the burners would be towards the edge of the tents. I have guys that run them all day at jobsites that are less ventilated than this will be.
Daniel, we should have at least one veggie chilli. I can make it if your dude doesn't have the bandwidth.
Since we're not voting on chili, how about voting for the best stout(s)?
I'll make the ballots and handle the tally like I did for the Lagunitas Shootout. I think voting makes you pay more attention to the beer, and it even seems more applicable to this event as we are focusing on one style.
yes on voting, yes on canopys. That's similar to what we did last year, but made only a very small surface area. We want a somewhat larger one this year.
Entrance will have to be at the gate. I want to keep the heat in. How can we handle registration outside?
We have 1 heater that DMC got last year for stout night. It is to the
right of the north door. It runs off of kerosene. Certainly having
additional heaters would be best. I don't think C0 is an issue here
given that these a temporary and poorly sealed structures.
Also, I think if you were hoping for additional tenting, like adam or
evan suggested, it would be more cost effective to just buy another
canopy. I think it was 169 for the one we currently have. A rental of
that size is gonna be close to the same price. Plus we have it for
other events. We also have tarps, not sure how well/how much coverage
it will give with the big canopy though. They do sell sides for that
canopy that are designed for it...75 dollars if I recall correctly.
Just food for thought.
I can certainly help out with the tent setup and setup of chili
outside. I do have to say though. I think it was fun have a chili
cook-off. I feel that a lot of people enjoyed it. But I get that it
was a lot of work too.
Last time I was up in the loft there were two rogue polls for the canopy; ca=
nopies are pretty useless without all the parts. Lets make sure to keep it (=
or "them" if we buy another) all in one nice package...
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> We have 1 heater that DMC got last year for stout night. It is to the
> right of the north door. It runs off of kerosene. Certainly having
> additional heaters would be best. I don't think C0 is an issue here
> given that these a temporary and poorly sealed structures.
> Also, I think if you were hoping for additional tenting, like adam or
> evan suggested, it would be more cost effective to just buy another
> canopy. I think it was 169 for the one we currently have. A rental of
> that size is gonna be close to the same price. Plus we have it for
> other events. We also have tarps, not sure how well/how much coverage
> it will give with the big canopy though. They do sell sides for that
> canopy that are designed for it...75 dollars if I recall correctly.
> Just food for thought.
> I can certainly help out with the tent setup and setup of chili
> outside. I do have to say though. I think it was fun have a chili
> cook-off. I feel that a lot of people enjoyed it. But I get that it
> was a lot of work too.
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I'm sure I can get my wife to cook up a large pan of them, and now that there is no chili competition I imagine that others will be be looking to bring some kind of alternate food. An ad hoc collection of corn bread/muffins/etc. might not pose the same issues as chili. But for discussion, do we want to take the same approach with cornbread as with chili, or propose a fun way for people to bring their own. (Do our four ovens all work? Will they be needed in any way for the Chili prep?)
casual planning meeting soon of the event committee: Would like to see Iggi and Stephen Lane there. Once we negotiate a date for this. Please pm me if you're interested in being a part of planning.
There's been a lot of disappointment over the chili contest being cancelled. I would be happy to do it, but we absolutely have to figure out a way to have it served outside. Do you guys think we can have that happen?
Also... I've heard a lot of people talk like they don't want to brew for the event since there are already so many entries. I don't think that's a problem and I would encourage everyone to still brew. The trend of this event (as opposed to last year) will be tasting in small amounts, almost like our first ides of cider. You absolutely would have to drink only small amounts of brew to be able to try them all. If it can be organized well enough, we can have a stout competition too. This event is going to be about variety, not about chugging a gallon of your favorite 10 percent stout, and not about blending your favorite 4 10% stouts and chugging them (although doing those things were fun).
Also... I want a nice menu this year to fit our wealth of offerings.
Particularly given the large number of stouts/beers, I think we should stick with the relatively simple chili plan. I'm sure the chili contest would be fun, but we're a homebrew club, not a home-cooking club. Let's concentrate on the beers and make that part of the event awesome, while having the chili available to soak up all that dark, boozy goodness.
We didn't even make any announcements or vote for the chili. My assumption is that folks are more interested in maintaining the all inclusive pot luck model, which I understand, but I think we should consider limiting food and beer entries.
Thinking about sampling everything is giving me the spins and that queezy feeling.
It sounds like there are a few enthusiasts who may really really want to design/cook their own chili. Since we are planning on 3-4 batches even under the new plan, perhaps the club might arrange some of them to pair up with the proposed chili maker(s) to work with the "caterer" to design and cook their own recipe. Just a thought. That way we could unify preparation while letting members introduce their own chili, and might even let people judge the 3-4 different chilis that are actually prepared.
nice! I like the dimensions! And the write-up! Would it help also if I volunteered an email address for contacting? I could add people to the email list as they email me and then send out a blast email describing how to get in for the event, basically becoming a member or signing up for the trial. I would also like to use that forum to let them know that if they sign up early we'll give them extra time as a trial member. So... The deal would be that no matter when you sign up, your trial membership doesn't expire until one month after January 26th. You would just have to say 'Stout' in the comments line of paypal or something. This would be an incentive to pre-pay to come to the event. It would help keep long lines from forming around the pay stations which would have been worse at ides had more people come. This would need the board's approval of course. What does everyone think?
+1 .....We have tried the contests before and I find people get less interested the more they drink....they just want to have a good time and not have to deal with contests per se... I think we should just have a "Chaos house Chilli" and a vegitarian version.....plus the fixins....Adam is right...if you have a award winning chilli enter it in a chilli contest....this is an event to showcase your beer....
Yes, simplify from 11 chilis, but we do need some variety covering the hot to mild spectrum, along with something unique (eg chicken chili with kim chi and bok choy).
I think a beer contest makes for more mindful drinking. It doesn't have to be all serious, think it as more of a fun game that keeps people focused on what they are drinking. I promise to stay sober enough to count ballots ;)
Daniel and Lucas, I would go with "events@chaosbrewclub.net" as a contact with the members of the events committee as recipients. Each of our events are going to raise the same questions, so it seems better to consolidate event related communications.
What's the point of the early incentive? These people have to sign up beforehand anyway to get into the event (it's not like we can do a $20 before the event; $25 at the door). Is it simply to alleviate/eliminate people signing up at the door?
jim, in the post I wrote above when first mentioning the incentive, I said "It would help keep long lines from forming around the pay stations which would have been worse at ides had more people come." So, to answer your question, yes.
Josh, I may have misspoken? Not sure. The idea is that everyone's month of trial wouldn't end until one full month after January 26th. If you sign up before January 26th, your trial starts then. In essence, the length of your trial membership has a set end, but the beginning depends on how early you join. So yes, there is extra incentive to sign up any day after December 26th. The extra incentive disappears the day of the event.
I feel that if we do our due diligence, however, and warn people about the potential length of the line - in the cold - if they wait until showing up to get a membership, it's their fault if they're waiting in the cold.
For Ides it really wasn't too bad. There was one guy whose name I remember like my own because he was cursing up a storm and making a big stink about the slow wireless internet; but, that was the worst of it.
Honestly, if we fix the kinks from last time (namely the birthday field was being finicky; and because people had to use PayPal they forgot their usernames/passwords and credit card wasn't an option at that time) the line will go smoothly.
I say we not make any more adminstrative work for ourselves with an earlybird special.
Thanks Jim but I would rather take over the administrative duty as a small b=
urden to myself if I feel that it will make the event run smoothly, rather t=
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el unwelcome because they didn't sign up early. My sense is that anyone, new=
or old member, who comes to an event that I've organized is my guest and de=
serving of my hospitality. We'll be doing the door in shifts this year so n=
o one person has to stand in the cold for the whole event (thanks Kelly!)
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No, that email address is not already set up, it can be if need be.
As far as memberships, if people want to sign up more than 30 days ahead of time, any reason we're not pushing them towards the friend membership? You purchase it quarterly and would be the better place to get them to go in my opinion. No matter how hard we try there will be people who have to sign up at the door. I think as long as we have the credit card option available things will be better.
Maybe we should just consider doing a "buy one, get one free" special
over the holidays. Instead of the trial membership being 30 days, make
it 60.
I'm not sure what it would take on Lucas's end, but I would think that
it would be easier than what has previously been proposed from a
back-end operations view.
It will prob be a couple weeks until we have all ducks in a row and
can fully publicize this event. By then, if someone buys a trial, they
should be good for stout night event as well + be able to use there
trial to visit BH and attend events. I feel that it is also in the
spirit of the holiday season to offer something like this.
What do others think? Lucas - how much work is this on your end to
change trial from 30 to 60?
The only issue with this is that it then matches our Daily Candy deal and
that doesn't truly look like a "deal". Maybe run that after the DC deal
ends?
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> Maybe we should just consider doing a "buy one, get one free" special
> over the holidays. Instead of the trial membership being 30 days, make
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> I'm not sure what it would take on Lucas's end, but I would think that
> it would be easier than what has previously been proposed from a
> back-end operations view.
> It will prob be a couple weeks until we have all ducks in a row and
> can fully publicize this event. By then, if someone buys a trial, they
> should be good for stout night event as well + be able to use there
> trial to visit BH and attend events. I feel that it is also in the
> spirit of the holiday season to offer something like this.
> What do others think? Lucas - how much work is this on your end to
> change trial from 30 to 60?
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here's a related concern. We need more chili this year. Most people will only make the amount that goes in their crock pot. Everyone has small crock pots. Multiple crock pots = a lot of space taken up. We don't have much space for stout night. If we can get the tent situation figured out and serve the chili outside, I'm willing to keep the competition.
If we are having an informal pol, I'd choose having the quantity over the competition. 16 different beers and 10 different chilis is a little overkill.
we're up to 19, maybe even 20 beers
...igz...
Does anyone else prefer when links open in a new tab/browser....?
i always do, via right click
...igz...
I agree with Daniel's suggestion that we streamline the chili. Given the number and likely strength of the beers presented, we will need a lot of chili. Having 10-15 crock pots worth of chili is interesting, but not an efficient use of space vs. a couple of catering-sized serving stations.
-Adam
if we want to have live music/dj, we will def need the extra space.
...igz...
Link needs to be a sticky; was just trolling the thread for it.
The spreadsheet looks good idea. But, I remember from Cinco that it had different shifts within each category and it may have even had different responsibilities under each general catetory (e.g., under "setup" it had "tents" or "keezer"). Since we know the date and time of the event and since we know approximately what kind of setup we need, maybe breaking it up would be more helpful for people so they know exactly what they must do and exactly the time they have to do it....
until its sticky, here it is again. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnPoI4zb3g1BdHZEU0ZfMUUtRXp...
edited per request. also - feel free to edit as yall see fit. stout night, tho, is less complex than cinco with less build.
...igz...
Daniel, I'm with you on the chili. This will be cleaner, more space efficient, & free us up for other duties. People are coming for the beer and to hang out with us b/c we're awesome. the chili is just an added bonus that night and a burden the next day :)
As for the space concerns, a lot will depend on how much turnout we get based off the Daily Candy deal that will be dropping in December (we worked out the fiscal details to pay for the added costs of more people attending the party). I like the tent we used for Harvest Fest & possibly renting one similar to it that would go right next to it. We could then tarp the 3 sides & pipe in heat with a jobsite heater (which i can get for free). Thoughts?
@Evan: as long as piping in the heat from a jobsite heater doesn't present any sort of CO danger, that sounds good. Otherwise I was thinking of renting a couple of those standing propane patio heaters to put in the tent. I guess they all burn propane and would all have the same CO danger. Does anyone know how concerned we should be about potentially poisoning our guests?
Sorry to be that guy again, btw.
-Adam
Ha, no problem Adam, it's your lawyerly nature to think like that. I don't think it would be a concern as the tent won't be sealed up tightly and the burners would be towards the edge of the tents. I have guys that run them all day at jobsites that are less ventilated than this will be.
we do have one smaller burn from last stout night still in the BH. was quite efficient, but def wont heat the whole big ass canopy we have now.
...igz...
Daniel, we should have at least one veggie chilli. I can make it if your dude doesn't have the bandwidth.
Since we're not voting on chili, how about voting for the best stout(s)?
I'll make the ballots and handle the tally like I did for the Lagunitas Shootout. I think voting makes you pay more attention to the beer, and it even seems more applicable to this event as we are focusing on one style.
I'm sure we could make a veggie option, unless you're just really jiving to make something this year ;)
yes on voting, yes on canopys. That's similar to what we did last year, but made only a very small surface area. We want a somewhat larger one this year.
Entrance will have to be at the gate. I want to keep the heat in. How can we handle registration outside?
also, what would help speed the registration process up? And don't say if people didn't do it at the door.
We have 1 heater that DMC got last year for stout night. It is to the
right of the north door. It runs off of kerosene. Certainly having
additional heaters would be best. I don't think C0 is an issue here
given that these a temporary and poorly sealed structures.
Also, I think if you were hoping for additional tenting, like adam or
evan suggested, it would be more cost effective to just buy another
canopy. I think it was 169 for the one we currently have. A rental of
that size is gonna be close to the same price. Plus we have it for
other events. We also have tarps, not sure how well/how much coverage
it will give with the big canopy though. They do sell sides for that
canopy that are designed for it...75 dollars if I recall correctly.
Just food for thought.
I can certainly help out with the tent setup and setup of chili
outside. I do have to say though. I think it was fun have a chili
cook-off. I feel that a lot of people enjoyed it. But I get that it
was a lot of work too.
Last time I was up in the loft there were two rogue polls for the canopy; ca=
nopies are pretty useless without all the parts. Lets make sure to keep it (=
or "them" if we buy another) all in one nice package...
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> right of the north door. It runs off of kerosene. Certainly having
> additional heaters would be best. I don't think C0 is an issue here
> given that these a temporary and poorly sealed structures.
> Also, I think if you were hoping for additional tenting, like adam or
> evan suggested, it would be more cost effective to just buy another
> canopy. I think it was 169 for the one we currently have. A rental of
> that size is gonna be close to the same price. Plus we have it for
> other events. We also have tarps, not sure how well/how much coverage
> it will give with the big canopy though. They do sell sides for that
> canopy that are designed for it...75 dollars if I recall correctly.
> Just food for thought.
> I can certainly help out with the tent setup and setup of chili
> outside. I do have to say though. I think it was fun have a chili
> cook-off. I feel that a lot of people enjoyed it. But I get that it
> was a lot of work too.
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Cornbread ... what are we doing about cornbread?
aw fuck! What a great idea! What are we doing about cornbread? Any ideas. I'm sold. There's no stout night this year if there's no cornbread.
I'm sure I can get my wife to cook up a large pan of them, and now that there is no chili competition I imagine that others will be be looking to bring some kind of alternate food. An ad hoc collection of corn bread/muffins/etc. might not pose the same issues as chili. But for discussion, do we want to take the same approach with cornbread as with chili, or propose a fun way for people to bring their own. (Do our four ovens all work? Will they be needed in any way for the Chili prep?)
I can also bake up a s*!$-load of cornbread if need be. I'm always happy to chip in, just let me know.
Oh... my... god. Why haven't we done this? http://thechive.com/2013/09/17/guys-rig-up-buddies-plumbing-with-beer-wh...
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thanks to bill mason for graciously donating a large portion of his batch of the Koval KBS clone to Stout Night! Yet another entry...
casual planning meeting soon of the event committee: Would like to see Iggi and Stephen Lane there. Once we negotiate a date for this. Please pm me if you're interested in being a part of planning.
so...
There's been a lot of disappointment over the chili contest being cancelled. I would be happy to do it, but we absolutely have to figure out a way to have it served outside. Do you guys think we can have that happen?
Also... I've heard a lot of people talk like they don't want to brew for the event since there are already so many entries. I don't think that's a problem and I would encourage everyone to still brew. The trend of this event (as opposed to last year) will be tasting in small amounts, almost like our first ides of cider. You absolutely would have to drink only small amounts of brew to be able to try them all. If it can be organized well enough, we can have a stout competition too. This event is going to be about variety, not about chugging a gallon of your favorite 10 percent stout, and not about blending your favorite 4 10% stouts and chugging them (although doing those things were fun).
Also... I want a nice menu this year to fit our wealth of offerings.
and I encourage everyone to take home the inevitable decent amount of beer that they will have left over in their keg or from their bottles.
Particularly given the large number of stouts/beers, I think we should stick with the relatively simple chili plan. I'm sure the chili contest would be fun, but we're a homebrew club, not a home-cooking club. Let's concentrate on the beers and make that part of the event awesome, while having the chili available to soak up all that dark, boozy goodness.
Just my $0.02.
-Adam
We didn't even make any announcements or vote for the chili. My assumption is that folks are more interested in maintaining the all inclusive pot luck model, which I understand, but I think we should consider limiting food and beer entries.
Thinking about sampling everything is giving me the spins and that queezy feeling.
Contests are kind of a pain to run. If we are going to go through the effort, let's make it a beer competition.
It sounds like there are a few enthusiasts who may really really want to design/cook their own chili. Since we are planning on 3-4 batches even under the new plan, perhaps the club might arrange some of them to pair up with the proposed chili maker(s) to work with the "caterer" to design and cook their own recipe. Just a thought. That way we could unify preparation while letting members introduce their own chili, and might even let people judge the 3-4 different chilis that are actually prepared.
Well, you have a lot of portable propane burners and a lot of big pots.....
First draft of the poster, needs a little a work, but very close to done.
nice! I like the dimensions! And the write-up! Would it help also if I volunteered an email address for contacting? I could add people to the email list as they email me and then send out a blast email describing how to get in for the event, basically becoming a member or signing up for the trial. I would also like to use that forum to let them know that if they sign up early we'll give them extra time as a trial member. So... The deal would be that no matter when you sign up, your trial membership doesn't expire until one month after January 26th. You would just have to say 'Stout' in the comments line of paypal or something. This would be an incentive to pre-pay to come to the event. It would help keep long lines from forming around the pay stations which would have been worse at ides had more people come. This would need the board's approval of course. What does everyone think?
Aside from the paying early piece, I would simply suggest we create an "events@chaosbrewclub.net" or "stoutnight@chaosbrewclub.net" so that its official instead of using a personal email. That is all.
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Is there any incentive to sign up early after December 26th?
+1 .....We have tried the contests before and I find people get less interested the more they drink....they just want to have a good time and not have to deal with contests per se... I think we should just have a "Chaos house Chilli" and a vegitarian version.....plus the fixins....Adam is right...if you have a award winning chilli enter it in a chilli contest....this is an event to showcase your beer....
Yes, simplify from 11 chilis, but we do need some variety covering the hot to mild spectrum, along with something unique (eg chicken chili with kim chi and bok choy).
I think a beer contest makes for more mindful drinking. It doesn't have to be all serious, think it as more of a fun game that keeps people focused on what they are drinking. I promise to stay sober enough to count ballots ;)
Daniel and Lucas, I would go with "events@chaosbrewclub.net" as a contact with the members of the events committee as recipients. Each of our events are going to raise the same questions, so it seems better to consolidate event related communications.
Is this email already set up? Do all three of us have access to it?
What's the point of the early incentive? These people have to sign up beforehand anyway to get into the event (it's not like we can do a $20 before the event; $25 at the door). Is it simply to alleviate/eliminate people signing up at the door?
jim, in the post I wrote above when first mentioning the incentive, I said "It would help keep long lines from forming around the pay stations which would have been worse at ides had more people come." So, to answer your question, yes.
Josh, I may have misspoken? Not sure. The idea is that everyone's month of trial wouldn't end until one full month after January 26th. If you sign up before January 26th, your trial starts then. In essence, the length of your trial membership has a set end, but the beginning depends on how early you join. So yes, there is extra incentive to sign up any day after December 26th. The extra incentive disappears the day of the event.
Thanks for the clarification, Daniel.
I feel that if we do our due diligence, however, and warn people about the potential length of the line - in the cold - if they wait until showing up to get a membership, it's their fault if they're waiting in the cold.
For Ides it really wasn't too bad. There was one guy whose name I remember like my own because he was cursing up a storm and making a big stink about the slow wireless internet; but, that was the worst of it.
Honestly, if we fix the kinks from last time (namely the birthday field was being finicky; and because people had to use PayPal they forgot their usernames/passwords and credit card wasn't an option at that time) the line will go smoothly.
I say we not make any more adminstrative work for ourselves with an earlybird special.
Thanks Jim but I would rather take over the administrative duty as a small b=
urden to myself if I feel that it will make the event run smoothly, rather t=
han take the attitude that its really their fault for waiting until then to s=
ign up. I'd also prefer if the people working the door at my event were peo=
ple that had the same giving attitude. I don't want anyone to be made to fe=
el unwelcome because they didn't sign up early. My sense is that anyone, new=
or old member, who comes to an event that I've organized is my guest and de=
serving of my hospitality. We'll be doing the door in shifts this year so n=
o one person has to stand in the cold for the whole event (thanks Kelly!)
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Yeah, that's definitely me: Mr. Inhospitable. ;-)
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No, that email address is not already set up, it can be if need be.
As far as memberships, if people want to sign up more than 30 days ahead of time, any reason we're not pushing them towards the friend membership? You purchase it quarterly and would be the better place to get them to go in my opinion. No matter how hard we try there will be people who have to sign up at the door. I think as long as we have the credit card option available things will be better.
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Maybe we should just consider doing a "buy one, get one free" special
over the holidays. Instead of the trial membership being 30 days, make
it 60.
I'm not sure what it would take on Lucas's end, but I would think that
it would be easier than what has previously been proposed from a
back-end operations view.
It will prob be a couple weeks until we have all ducks in a row and
can fully publicize this event. By then, if someone buys a trial, they
should be good for stout night event as well + be able to use there
trial to visit BH and attend events. I feel that it is also in the
spirit of the holiday season to offer something like this.
What do others think? Lucas - how much work is this on your end to
change trial from 30 to 60?
Changing it from 30 to 60 days is a trivial effort on my part, 2-5 minutes of effort depending on how much I've been drinking.
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The only issue with this is that it then matches our Daily Candy deal and
that doesn't truly look like a "deal". Maybe run that after the DC deal
ends?
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> Maybe we should just consider doing a "buy one, get one free" special
> over the holidays. Instead of the trial membership being 30 days, make
> it 60.
> I'm not sure what it would take on Lucas's end, but I would think that
> it would be easier than what has previously been proposed from a
> back-end operations view.
> It will prob be a couple weeks until we have all ducks in a row and
> can fully publicize this event. By then, if someone buys a trial, they
> should be good for stout night event as well + be able to use there
> trial to visit BH and attend events. I feel that it is also in the
> spirit of the holiday season to offer something like this.
> What do others think? Lucas - how much work is this on your end to
> change trial from 30 to 60?
>
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Maybe we should just consider doing a "buy one, get one free" spe=
cial<br>
over the holidays. Instead of the trial membership being 30 days, make<br>
it 60.<br>
I'm not sure what it would take on Lucas's end, but I would think t=
hat<br>
it would be easier than what has previously been proposed from a<br>
back-end operations view.<br>
It will prob be a couple weeks until we have all ducks in a row and<br>
can fully publicize this event. By then, if someone buys a trial, they<br>
should be good for stout night event as well + be able to use there<br>
trial to visit BH and attend events. I feel that it is also in the<br>
spirit of the holiday season to offer something like this.<br>
What do others think? Lucas - how much work is this on your end to<br>
change trial from 30 to 60?<br>
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